In a recent post, the following statement appeared regarding the overwhelmingly Leftist victims of the Great Horror from Gaza in the attacked kibbutzim and moshavim (a-disturbing-observation-of-leftist-stridency-and-lack-of-remorse-in-the-wake-of-the-great-horror-from-gaza.html):
They wanted the kibbutz weapons locked in an armory, accessible only to one or two people on the entire kibbutz.
That's exactly what they got.
For some reason (and only a couple of miles from an enemy border), they could not foresee any kind of scenario in which a race to the armory might cause a lethal delay in self-defense.
Or that having only one or two people with keys to the armory might be self-limiting.
This is exactly what crippled the security teams on the kibbutzim.
In one case, the terrorists (who'd mapped out the kibbutz in detail via the assistance of the Gazans hired to work there) lay in wait for the kibbutz head of security to come running with the key to the armory.
They murdered him in a sneaky ambush, knowing exactly where to wait for him.
He was the only guy with a key to the armory.
No one could get to his body.
So the entire kibbutz was left unarmed.
Those of you who know a bit more about the background regarding the reason for the storage of weapons in the community's armory (rather than a safe place at home) know the powers-that-be imposed this stricture on the kibbutzim and moshavim in that area.
So you might wonder how can they be blamed?
To explain, let's look at moshav Netiv Ha'asara (located a 1-minute WALK from the northern border of Gaza), which faced the same stricture, yet they resolved not to go along with it.
In an interview with the ever-appealing Oded Harush, Itai Levi (a member of the moshav Netiv Ha'asarah and its security force) explains:
So you might wonder how can they be blamed?
To explain, let's look at moshav Netiv Ha'asara (located a 1-minute WALK from the northern border of Gaza), which faced the same stricture, yet they resolved not to go along with it.
In an interview with the ever-appealing Oded Harush, Itai Levi (a member of the moshav Netiv Ha'asarah and its security force) explains:
Less than a decade ago, they stole the weapon of a member of the security force in Eshkol...That same day, we received instructions that all the settlements in the Gaza envelope must return their weapons — the fully automatic rifles belonging to the security force — to the armory.
With the decisive leadership of Netiv Ha'asarah, they resolved NOT to return the weapons.
After discussions and words with the army, we reached an understanding that — just so you'll understand the absurdity of it all — we need to buy safes made to hold M-16s and rifles at the cost of 640 NIS. A member of the security force only needs to pay 320 NIS.
The moshav needs to pay 320 NIS so that — Gd forbid! [sarc] — the army needn't pay it.
So we placed the safes in our homes.
And then I find myself on that day — we find ourselves, the members of Netiv Ha'asara — with an M-16 at home...
In contrast to Kfar Aza, which needed to go outside to the armory — and we all know what happened.
And Be'eri, which needed to go outside to the armory — and we all know what happened.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xigo4a_Eu7I (starting from minute 8:24 in Hebrew only)
As we all know, a great many people in Eretz Yisrael keep fully automatic machine guns in their home.
Combat soldiers on leave arrive at home with an M-16.
I never heard of anyone having a safe.
Instead, they are supposed to dismantle it and store the parts in different places so no one can just pick it up and start shooting, whether a curious child or a terrorist invader.
Why couldn't the kibbutz members, and especially the security force, keep to that same rule, which exists for young soldiers — and has for decades?
Why, all of the sudden, are responsible & trained members of a security force not trusted to keep their weapons safely at home...but a teenage combat soldier is?
Simply irrational.
Combat soldiers on leave arrive at home with an M-16.
I never heard of anyone having a safe.
Instead, they are supposed to dismantle it and store the parts in different places so no one can just pick it up and start shooting, whether a curious child or a terrorist invader.
Why couldn't the kibbutz members, and especially the security force, keep to that same rule, which exists for young soldiers — and has for decades?
Why, all of the sudden, are responsible & trained members of a security force not trusted to keep their weapons safely at home...but a teenage combat soldier is?
Simply irrational.
How These Communities Could Have Improved Their Self-Defense
It's true that Netiv Ha'asara had to fight for the right and pay for it.
But all the kibbutzim and moshavim in that area contain people who are used to fighting for what they want.
(Heck, some of them — including a woman in her seventies, who was later kidnapped by terrorists from her kibbutz — even travelled all the way to Tel Aviv to demonstrate in favor of the Leftist authorities who enabled the whole Horror from Gaza to happen.)
Of course, it's deplorable of the military elites to not only impose an extraordinary stricture on the security force and community regarding weapons ownership (and only after much wrangling), but to force them to pay for it.
However, these communities in the Gaza envelope aren't poor.
The members of these communities lived very nice lives with cars (car ownership is not as common in Israel as in the USA), and many made their homes in spacious luxury villas or smaller but well-appointed private homes. (The vast majority of Israelis live in apartments.)
Furthermore, kibbutzim already pay out tremendous amounts to their members — including a full tuition to university to whoever wants. (I don't know if all do, but it's common for a kibbutz to pay for university and other expenses.)
At the very least, it makes sense for these communities to minimally provide weapons for the security force, numbering around a dozen.
320 x 12 = 3840 NIS.
This is not an outrageous sum for a kibbutz to pay for their security force to own a weapon in their home.
(Yes, the imposition is outrageous. But the total cost remains well within the capability of the kibbutz or moshav to pay for it.)
For regular members of the community, it's also not beyond their means to pay the one-time price of 640 NIS for a safe.
But minimally, everyone agrees the security should have had weapons at home.
So these are people who could've fought for and afforded the right to store a weapon at home (at the barest minimum, for their security force) — yet chose not to.
But all the kibbutzim and moshavim in that area contain people who are used to fighting for what they want.
(Heck, some of them — including a woman in her seventies, who was later kidnapped by terrorists from her kibbutz — even travelled all the way to Tel Aviv to demonstrate in favor of the Leftist authorities who enabled the whole Horror from Gaza to happen.)
Of course, it's deplorable of the military elites to not only impose an extraordinary stricture on the security force and community regarding weapons ownership (and only after much wrangling), but to force them to pay for it.
However, these communities in the Gaza envelope aren't poor.
The members of these communities lived very nice lives with cars (car ownership is not as common in Israel as in the USA), and many made their homes in spacious luxury villas or smaller but well-appointed private homes. (The vast majority of Israelis live in apartments.)
Furthermore, kibbutzim already pay out tremendous amounts to their members — including a full tuition to university to whoever wants. (I don't know if all do, but it's common for a kibbutz to pay for university and other expenses.)
At the very least, it makes sense for these communities to minimally provide weapons for the security force, numbering around a dozen.
320 x 12 = 3840 NIS.
This is not an outrageous sum for a kibbutz to pay for their security force to own a weapon in their home.
(Yes, the imposition is outrageous. But the total cost remains well within the capability of the kibbutz or moshav to pay for it.)
For regular members of the community, it's also not beyond their means to pay the one-time price of 640 NIS for a safe.
But minimally, everyone agrees the security should have had weapons at home.
So these are people who could've fought for and afforded the right to store a weapon at home (at the barest minimum, for their security force) — yet chose not to.
The Path to Peace became a Path to Slaughter
The Disengagement from Gush Katif pushed the boundary of enemy territory to 100 meters/328 feet from Netiv Ha'asara.
(You can view photos and learn more about Netiv Ha'asara here: dannythedigger.com/netiv-haasara/.)
Itai Levi and many of his fellow moshavniks fully supported the Disengagement and later created the Path to Peace project to express their friendly feelings toward Muslim-Arab Gazans.
Immediately after the Disengagement in 2005, the army built 3 walls to protect the residents against sniper fire from Gaza.
In 2007, Gazan terrorists attempted to scale the wall to carry out an attack against the moshav, but Israeli soldiers liquidated them.
Nonetheless, the residents noted how the Gazans stood in towers to watch the Jewish residents through binoculars.
According to Itai Levi, the residents repeatedly complained to the army, which did nothing further for the moshav's security.
On Simchat Torah 5784/2023, terrorists invaded the moshav by air via powered parachute gliders and later by land vehicles.
Despite the fully automatic machine guns within reach, the moshav still lost 20 members to the savages of that day — but the kibbutzim who submitted to storing their arms in the armory lost many more members through murder and abduction.
(You can view photos and learn more about Netiv Ha'asara here: dannythedigger.com/netiv-haasara/.)
Itai Levi and many of his fellow moshavniks fully supported the Disengagement and later created the Path to Peace project to express their friendly feelings toward Muslim-Arab Gazans.
Immediately after the Disengagement in 2005, the army built 3 walls to protect the residents against sniper fire from Gaza.
In 2007, Gazan terrorists attempted to scale the wall to carry out an attack against the moshav, but Israeli soldiers liquidated them.
Nonetheless, the residents noted how the Gazans stood in towers to watch the Jewish residents through binoculars.
According to Itai Levi, the residents repeatedly complained to the army, which did nothing further for the moshav's security.
On Simchat Torah 5784/2023, terrorists invaded the moshav by air via powered parachute gliders and later by land vehicles.
Despite the fully automatic machine guns within reach, the moshav still lost 20 members to the savages of that day — but the kibbutzim who submitted to storing their arms in the armory lost many more members through murder and abduction.
The Bloody Blame Game
That's all I wanted to add, basically.
As noted at the beginning, it's an addendum to this previous post:
a-disturbing-observation-of-leftist-stridency-and-lack-of-remorse-in-the-wake-of-the-great-horror-from-gaza.html
As noted at the beginning, it's an addendum to this previous post:
a-disturbing-observation-of-leftist-stridency-and-lack-of-remorse-in-the-wake-of-the-great-horror-from-gaza.html
Since the Great Horror from Gaza, some former Leftists recognized that, as private citizens, they supported policies which enabled the slaughter to happen.
And some of them even offered public apologies.
Support groups exist in Israel to help former Leftists deal with transitioning out of the harmful Leftist ideology.
Yet bewilderingly, despite all evidence to the contrary, many of the mostly secular Leftists from these communities continue to believe they hold no responsibility in enabling the Great Horror from Gaza.
With fire in their eyes and strident body language, they continue to cast the entire blame on others.
And some of them even offered public apologies.
Support groups exist in Israel to help former Leftists deal with transitioning out of the harmful Leftist ideology.
Yet bewilderingly, despite all evidence to the contrary, many of the mostly secular Leftists from these communities continue to believe they hold no responsibility in enabling the Great Horror from Gaza.
With fire in their eyes and strident body language, they continue to cast the entire blame on others.
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